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More Examples of the Poingdestre Crest

Presented here are additional examples of the family crest. The key components that we find in many Poingdextre crests is the "clenched right hand) or fist, and the spur (star).

Pew in the Church of St. Ouen's Parish in Jersey

This wood carving of the crest is on the front of the front pew in the parish church of St. Ouen in Jersey. There are seven other crests on this pew from prominent Jersey fief families. The crest are arranged in groups of four. Between the groups of four crests, is a larger carving with text that looks like Vinche lés de Bas in the scanned photo.

 

 

 

 

The second photo is of all of the crests on this pew. To the right of the Poingdestre crest is that of Hamptonne. Above right, I am not certain, looks like Le Rum. The crest above ours looks like De Maqout. I will need to dig out my original photos to see if they are more readable.

In the other section of four are the crests of De Carteret, Dumaresque, Lempriere and another one I can't read on the scanned photo.


Samples from Payne's Armorial of Jersey

The following examples are from "An Armorial of Jersey" by J. Bertrand Payne, 1859. This publication is a must read for those researching Jersey families. As with many genealogical books, some of the content was provided by family members living at the time of publication. So do not limit your research to just this book as contributors can sometimes enhance their story telling when it comes to family history..

A digitized copy of this book is available to PDA members in our Members section using the password given in the latest January issue of the PDA Newsletter. Not a member? Join the PDA. Or Google search the book. A copy is also available at the library of the Société Jersiaise in St. Helier, Jersey.

 

James Poingdestre, Esq. (b. cir 1830)

Page 323.

This crest is personalized to James Poingdestre, Esq. The shield is divided into six parts, showing his linage's from other families. Note that the fist and spur (star) appears twice, indicating his double descent from the Poingdestre's. Center top is that of Hamptonne.

 

Mrs. Poingdestre of Grainville House (probably James' mother)

Page 320.

Note that the left side is identical to the shield above for James.

From "Old Jersey Houses ll" by Joan Stevens, 1977 we read on page 128:

"It seems the Poingdestres, who in the 17th century lived at Swan Farm in the valley to the north, moved up the hill in the first half of the 18th century and built themselves a new and larger house."

The PDA's earliest Poingdestre immigrant to North America, George, lived in the 17th century, so Grainville likely was built after his departure from Jersey and possibly after his death. He probably never saw Grainville.

 

Rev. George Poingdestre

Page 325.

The image was provided to Payne for his publication by Rev. George Poingdestre. Rev George, M.A., was Principal of the Grammer School od St. natasious, in the APrish of St. Peter, Jersey in the 1800s.

 


Crest of the Poingdestre Family Who Lived at La Maison du Mont au Prêtre, St. Helier, Jersey

A cadet branch of the family for a time lived in La Maison du Mont au Prêtre. The mount or hill translates to Peter's Mount, a hill to the north of St. Helier. Take Trinity Hill Road (A8) from St. Helier. Turn left on La Route du Petit Clos. The home is on your right about halfway down the road.

This stone carving is in the entrance wall to La Maison du Mont au Prêtre on Jersey, a manor home that was once lived in by a branch of the Poingdestre family.

The stone is badly weathered, but you can make out the Poingdestre fist on top of the shield and the spur (star) in the middle of the shield on a horizontal bar. The other thirds of the shield can't be made out from the photo and are believed to be roses by some, similar to the Tudor rose.

There is another crest above this one, the bottom of it can be seen in this picture. We have an image from Google Street View of the wall and gate that these crests are on, view it.

 

Photo by Jane Goforth taken during her visit to Jersey.

Jersey Postage Stamp

During the 1980's, Jersey issued a series of postage stamps bearing the arms of prominent local families, including Poingdestre. The Jersey Post Office used the coat of arms we show above from a branch of the family that once lived in La Maison du Mont au Prêtre. Yes, it includes the right handed fist, but fixed on top of the helmet. It includes the spur (star). But the three roses are not found on other examples except the badly worn stone carving at Mount au Prete.

(See all Jersey stamps with family crests)

Uncle Ray's Badge

This embroidered patch (in England known as a badge) is based on the image found on the Jersey postage stamp. This badge is worn by PDA member Ray Poingdestre where we snapped a photo of it during Reunion 2014 in Williamsburg, VA. He lives in East Sussex, England. Along with his nephew Nigel Eyres, he can assist you in planning your visit to England and Scotland. Contact him and Nigel.


 

During the 1400's, there were several Poingdestre's with the given name of Jean (Johan). One or two of them served in Jersey's highest office, Baliff.

17th century seal of Ltd. Bailiff Jean Poingdestre (b. 1609)

He was a great-half uncle to immigrant George. The image at left is found on Page 322 of Payne's Amorial of Jersey.

The right fist appears centered at top between "I" (for Jean) and "P". The spur is in the lower half of the seal, probably made by a ring or other tool in melted wax, a common method for autenticating who is writing or signing a document.

15th century seal of Jean Poingdesre, Bailiff of Jersey 1452-1453 and 1468-1477.

It coulld display a fist at top and spur at bottom.

This following information and the image at left is from theislandwiki.org, author is Mike Bisson.

Which Jean (or Johan) Poingdestre was Bailiff of Jersey in the 15th century, and exactly when, is in some considerable doubt. It may be that there was more than one person of this name from the same family who held the high office.

Some records show Jean Poingdestre as Bailiff from 1452 to 1453 and again from 1468 to 1477. However, the most recent publication to refer to this Bailiff was an article in the 1970 Annual Bulletin of La Société Jersiaise, which refers to documents in the collection of the Marett family of La Haule and states that Jean Poingdestre was Bailiff in 1452-53, in 1467 and 1476.

There are six Jean/Johan/John Poingdestres in successive generations:

  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1270- )
  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1305-1389) m Johanna des Augres (1310- )
  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1340-1375) m Johanna (1344- )
  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1375-1453) m Jeanette Le Lorreur (1380-1440)
  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1411-1477) m Helen Morin (1425-1476)
  • Johan (Jean) Poingdestre (1445-1500) m Alinor (1436- )

It is possible that the Johan (Jean) Poingdestre who lived from 1411 to 1477 was the only member of the family who held the office of Bailiff, but the dates tend to support the view put forward by earlier researchers that his father, who married Jeannette Le Lorreur, was Bailiff from 1452 to 1453, when he died, and the son, who married Helen Morin, was appointed Bailiff in the 1460s and remained in office until his own death in 1477.

A Jean Poingdestre was appointed Lieut-Bailiff in 1420 and served in this position for at least five years. In 1450 one of the Poingdestres was appointed Jurat. This is believed to be the son of the Jean who was made Bailiff two years later.

The first Bailiff was seigneur of the Fiefs ès Poingdestres, ès Hormans and Diélament, and owned substantial other property. He was succeeded as Bailiff by Nicolas Morin, whose daughter Helen married his son Jean, who went on to become Constable of St Saviour in 1462, before succeeding his father-in-law as Bailiff at the end of the French occupation of Jersey in 1468.

His son married Alinor, whose surname is not known, and they had two sons, Jean and George. Jean became a cleric and forfeited his rights of inheritance, so George became Seigneur. He was Constable of St Helier but was not as politically active as his father and grandfather.

 

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